My computer is loud.
Jul. 14th, 2008 01:38 pmReally, really, quietly loud.
That probably seems nonsensical. It's my work computer, so it has no speakers, right? So I brought in headphones... I can't tell if the headphones are just TOO good, or if something's bollixed up in this box, but it...hums. And clicks. And buzzes. All. The. TIME.
That probably seems nonsensical. It's my work computer, so it has no speakers, right? So I brought in headphones... I can't tell if the headphones are just TOO good, or if something's bollixed up in this box, but it...hums. And clicks. And buzzes. All. The. TIME.
- Scrolling a page?
Buzzzzzz. - Animated GIF?
Tick.tick.tick.tick. - Popup-text?
Click. - Loading webpage?
Whirrrrr. - Clock advancing by one second?
Tick.(sometimes) - Maximizing/minimizing window?
Whiiiine. - Been stationary too long? Roll 1d8, consult "annoying noises" chart.
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Date: 2008-07-14 07:01 pm (UTC)I know if a Blackberry (worst offenders), an AT&T phone (not sure if that includes iPhones), or a few other cel devices get within six feet of my work computer I get all kinds of random noise whenever the device checks in with the towers ... and it is worse if a message actually gets sent/received.
With all of our consultants (and occasionally other people like me) getting issued Blackberries, I can now recognize the characteristic Blackberry noise as being noticeably different from the other devices (diagnosing oddities "by ear").
PS - my work is pretty friendly, I actually have speakers that are OK, which I supplemented by bringing in a subwoofer from home...
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Date: 2008-07-14 08:27 pm (UTC)I've never noticed this particular quirk before in WinXP...
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Date: 2008-07-14 08:09 pm (UTC)Tick.(but not all the time)no subject
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Date: 2008-07-14 08:28 pm (UTC)Another possibility: does the headphone cable run near your monitor? A few jobs ago, I had a setup where I got headphone noise every time the screen image changed significantly. That turned out to be caused by the old CRT monitor, which spewed intereference depending on the overall brightness of the image.
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Date: 2008-07-14 08:48 pm (UTC)The monitor idea is a good one, except that we use LCDs and the only thing the cable is particularly near is the keyboard (which doesn't seem to affect it at all). However I did try flipping back to my old crappy headphones and the noise is softer, so I suspect it's a lack of shielding on these El Cheapo headphones (I think they're the default iPoD set). So you may be onto something after all... there's a definite background hum that you never heard with the old set. Which sucks, because the reason I switched is the old ones had lost their earbud cushions.
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Date: 2008-07-14 11:12 pm (UTC)Which seems unrelated to your post, but at least you seem to be getting interesting sounds from your 'puter.
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Date: 2008-07-14 11:42 pm (UTC)We'll be completely unavailable until we get back from vacation circa 7/23, but after that should be reasonable.
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Date: 2008-07-14 11:42 pm (UTC)http://archive.evaluationengineering.com/archive/articles/0602usb.htm
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Date: 2008-07-14 11:50 pm (UTC)-
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Date: 2008-07-15 03:13 pm (UTC)Noise pickup
Date: 2008-07-15 03:32 pm (UTC)You're getting induced noise in your audio path from something that is 'leaking'. Given that it isn't steady, it probably isn't from a power supply (those can produce either 60Hz 'hum', or a high whine, but generally do so consistently).
The fact that it happens in the ways that it does, and that you have an LCD monitor, make me suspect that it is probably something involving your graphics, but quite possibly *not* your monitor or monitor feed cable. As you note, LCDs don't leak the way CRTs do, though they *can* still leak -- but if they do, it is likely to be a fairly constant, mostly *steady* thing, since (like CRTs), they get data continuously.
The video card, however, only utilizes (significant) processor when it is actually processing a *change* in the contents of the video buffer. A 'buzz' (scrolling) can be composed of a large number of 'ticks' in rapid succession. The clock tick is a big hint, the animated GIF sound a bigger one. 'Whirr' on loading a page is probably due to the period update of the progress spinner, and 'whine' on minimize/maximize is a high-speed redraw. I'd bet that if you disable the 'animations' configuration, minimize/maximize will turn into a 'click' -- this is, in fact, probably a fairly good way to test the theory.
If you get it even when all of the portions of the sound card are muted, it means that you're probably picking it up from the neutral (or 'signal ground') line, which, on some cards, may never be disconnected (depends largely on whether the card is good enough to have the headphone circuit on an opto-isolator to decouple it from the main board, and most don't bother, as far as I know).
Unfortunately, there aren't a whole lot of ways to fix this that are practical in a work environment, short of simply contacting whoever handles IT hardware and letting them know. However, if the video card has started leaking badly enough to be audible, there is a good chance that it is undergoing progressive failure and will just keep getting worse until it stops functioning entirely.
Also, technically, a card that is leaking that badly *should* be pulled from use due to FCC regulations, but if it isn't producing interference that impacts anything else, you'll have a difficult time convincing most IT folks that it is worth it (mostly, the reason it should be pulled is that the EM shielding is no longer functioning up to the specification the FCC certified the device at, meaning it is now effectively an uncertified RF noise source).
Re: Noise pickup
Date: 2008-07-15 03:39 pm (UTC)I'll look into it when I get back in town. Thanks!