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triadruid ([personal profile] triadruid) wrote2007-10-29 12:15 pm
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Vehicular Logic Puzzle for the VURD

Anybody familiar with logic puzzles, or cars, is welcome to help out on this one. :)

Our household is apparently going to be in the market for new vehicles over the next six months or so. It's not entirely clear how many have to shift, but both mine and [livejournal.com profile] featherynscale's are aging rapidly, and [livejournal.com profile] kittenpants' is too small for some of her needs.

So with that in mind, here's the clues as they stand so far:
  1. C's current car is a Saturn S-Series.
  2. D's current car is a Ford Aspire.
  3. K's current car is a Honda Civic.
  4. The Saturn runs well and has low-mileage.
  5. The Aspire does not have functional windshield wipers, and the engine hesitates when the weather is cold and wet. Both of these issues will become greater problems when winter hits.
  6. The Civic has a newly-developed electrical problem which recently caused it to start overheating.
  7. The Saturn will not start for men those who desire it to do so; only by clearing your mind of all desire to drive can you start the car.
  8. The Saturn does not hold sufficient cargo room for C's artwork, at times.
  9. The Civic is dilapidated in appearance but could be repaired.
  10. All vehicles should handle well in snow and rain, especially K's. D has the greatest tolerance for this, because of his Iowegian heritage.
  11. The Saturn does not meet K's standards of winter-weather reliability.
  12. D's greatest need for transportation is fuel efficiency for commuting, but he would like something attractive after the Aspire.
  13. D occasionally needs to carry small cargo for his current job, but that will change come spring.
  14. K's greatest need for transportation is commuting and meetings.
  15. C's greatest need is for errand-running, occasional long trips, and hauling art of all types and sizes. Her driving patterns are the most variable of the group.
  16. K likes the new Toyota Yaris (formerly the Echo hatchback), and the look of the Hyundai Tiburon.
  17. C does not like the Honda Element's ergonomics for driving (particularly the 2007's front-seat headrests), though the cargo room is extremely impressive.
  18. D's mother laid a geas on him not to drive a motorcycle, some years before she died. It's not clear if that promise survives her, or carries over to his current family.
  19. D should not drive anything that could be described as a "cop magnet" due to his lead foot. He's dangerous enough with a 4-cylinder engine...
  20. None of the household wishes to take on the financial hit of the depreciation of a brand-new car.
  21. All three really like the idea of a hybrid/maximally-efficient vehicle.
  22. Repair costs and downtime/unavailability would be a serious disadvantage in any family vehicle; no Jaguars or Harleys, please.
  23. At least one vehicle should be able to hold three passengers for extended road trips, along with normal luggage (Dragon*Con is a special case and outside the bounds of this requirement).
  24. At least one other vehicle must be able to carry two passengers on a regular basis (and probably three in a pinch).
  25. D has driven stick-shift vehicles most often, but living in a large city has tempered that desire somewhat.
  26. K can drive stick in a crunch, but would prefer not to.
  27. All three vehicles should be able to play music, preferably CD/Satellite Radio, for which C already has a subscription and K is considering, due to the state of Kansas City Radio.
  28. D is absurdly fond of the new Volvo styling, for no particular reason he can discover; particularly the S60/S80 even though it's much too large for his needs.
  29. Missouri personal property taxes make it unwise to keep more than the minimum number of vehicles around, even if they continue to run serviceably.
Pretend money is not an option a factor (wow, that was Freudian). Go!

(No, there isn't really a concrete problem to be solved here, but getting input from others and broadening our search window is a useful exercise, and probably entertaining besides)

Re: cute or cheap/reliable/efficient/small?

[identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I expect that some people can. I will certainly attempt it.

Re: cute or cheap/reliable/efficient/small?

[identity profile] chainwoman.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I with a fairly decent credit score was turned down by banks for my last car because I did not have enough credit history. I basically bit the ladies head off and ate it for dinner. Which didn't help, fyi. ;-)

I went to the dealership and they jumped for joy when they saw my credit. I've also heard them telling other people on the lot saying what you just said that if they have a co-signer with good credit they'll be able to do the loan. So, don't drop the idea due to one pissy bank. I too got declined.

Re: cute or cheap/reliable/efficient/small?

[identity profile] featherynscale.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
No, and I don't want to kill and eat the bank officers, they are generally very helpful and useful people. They just don't want to lend me money.

Re: cute or cheap/reliable/efficient/small?

[identity profile] chainwoman.livejournal.com 2007-10-29 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess the difference is that you saw their decision as reasonable and I saw it as unreasonable. I was ticked 'cause I felt they were age discriminating but using another reason to cover that over. BTW, did you know it is illegal for them to refuse to issue you credit because you have "filed bankruptcy in the past."

I truly, truly hope they found better wording to use or else it is something you can pursue. Nonetheless, not to get you all ticked off, but you should be upset as they are discriminating against you for something that should not be taken into consideration.

Re: cute or cheap/reliable/efficient/small?

[identity profile] opaljax.livejournal.com 2007-10-30 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Did [livejournal.com profile] triadruid tell you about my new car? I like it, and it costs me about $300 a month with an extended warranty. I got it at CarMax. I really like them, and I know my credit sucks way more than yours. Email me later, if'n you want some more info.